I. Wax Chaotic ([info]mattio) wrote,
I never gave too much thought about Heifer International, until recently, reading a few criticisms of their work. Many of them are along the lines of "Why donate things that are just going to be slaughtered?" and "Meat is a really terrible way to solve hunger." These criticisms seem to suck, for a few reasons. One is that HI's work isn't, "Here's a cow! Enjoy! They're delicious!" Rather, they promote more sustainable local economies that work well with local ecology and use the initial investment of animals to create a sustainable/self-regenerating source of income. Additionally, I chafe at first world style lecturing on not eating animals. I think that the notion that killing something else for food is inherently cruel is a load of bullshit.

That said, I still have a hard time parsing information out there in internetworld, and would welcome any opinions of the smart folks who are LJfriends. But I'm leaning toward supporting HI. Teaching somebody to fish (and about fish) seems to me to be more valuable than serving somebody a vegan meal. So to speak.

more:
even the better criticisms (the ones that aren't everything that's wrong with rich, whiney vegetarian proselytizers) still miss the mark on a bunch of stuff - namely, I suspect, the actual costs of using animals for farming, by comparing them to subsidies available for industrial animal agricultural corporations in the West for things like medicine in "the comparatively benign agricultural environment of the West" - which, last time I checked, looks something like this.

I tried to dig up what Kingsolver wrote in "Animal, Vegetable, Miracle" about HI and healthy use of animals for food production, but couldn't find it.

Till then I lean toward being okay with HI, especially if every criticism I read of it is either stupid and save-the-animals whiny, or has huge holes that I can take potshots at, like above.

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[info]dogpound

December 15 2009, 01:13:02 UTC 2 years ago

One problem I have with the first link is the guy saying DONT SUPPORT THAT SUPPORT THIS!!! oh by the way I run THIS!
And for lack of a better word, there are "first world" ideas going into "third world" countries. Places in Africa do not farm like we do here (thank god). There isn't as much monoculture and there is a lot of people who are subsistence farming.(I am speaking of my own experience of people in Tanzania since I was just there)
Almost everyone has chickens. Not chickens in pens, but just sorta roaming around that are used for eggs then eaten. A lot of people have 1 or 2 goats and there are cows here and there. It's not like people are shipping cattle farms over there.

I think that the notion that killing something else for food is inherently cruel is a load of bullshit.
I also agree. Esp. in other cultures. The idea of not eating meat is just not something that exists in the African cultures I have experienced. If you dont eat meat, it's because you can't afford it not because you're doing some internal good for all sentient beings song and dance.

I hope this made sense, I'm still pretty jet lagged.

[info]emmala

December 15 2009, 14:34:49 UTC 2 years ago

they are great. i know the daughter (she's like 70) of the guy who minded the cows on the first trip they made as part of the ww2 recovery effort. she has some funny stories about that trip. the idea of sending pregnant cows was also about promoting sharing. you get a cow but you have to give the calf to someone else. they also are aware of what animals should go to what place in the world which to me indicates that they are really thinking about how these animals are used and can be used best.

[info]derek2600

November 16 2010, 04:07:04 UTC 1 year ago

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